Minutes from the Errata Task Force Conference Call October 6, 2003


Attendees:


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aa-------a------------ Mehdi Mohtashemi
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Minutes of the last meeting.  Amend the minutes to note that Karen
attended by Proxy of Yong Xiao.  Mac moves that we accept the minutes
as modified.  Steven seconds.  No opposed.  Stu abstains.  Passes.

Action Items:

(10/06/03) Brad will file a new issue for the def_param change 
associated with issue 226.

(4/21/03) 9:  Gord to determine a location of the proposal in
        conference with Cliff.

(7/14/03) 16: Shalom volunteered to drive.  He needs to formulate some
        wording to improve what is there according to the concensus.  
        Also, he wants to formulate a possible problem and get some 
        reaction before he gets a formal proposal.

(11/18/02) Gord and committee to return with a generate proposal
        for 17, 113, 208, 255.

        Gord sent an initial draft of a bunch of text.  He has 
        received some feedback, and it will take some work to 
        incorporate it.

(10/06/03) 73:  Steven to update the proposal

(11/18/02) Steven and committee to return with an @* proposal for
        issues 22, 82, 84
        Group has agreement on some of the more contentious issues.

(11/18/02) Evaluating TBD Errata.  The tasks are:

    Gord
         165 13.11.1, A.2.1.1 -- reuse task_port_type
         170 formatting of bnf non-terminals  - Shalom sent something
                one stage before a proposal

(11/4/02) Steven will proposing a wording to fix 172.  It will be a
        significant rewrite.

(8/11/03) 175: Anders volunteered to drive

(11/18/02) Evaluating TBD Errata.  The tasks are:

    Charles
        197 sscanf/"string" incompatibility

                Some progress this last week.  May have a proposal
                this week.

(11/18/02) 198: Shalom Evaluating TBD Errata.  The tasks are:
        198 sinks should allow only constant part-selects
                Shalom will make the smaller change to allow port 
                expressions to be what is allowed on the lhs of a
                continuous assignment.

        Shalom may get to by the next meeting.

(7/14/03) 204: James volunteered to drive

        He needs input on what the simulators do.  There are some
        complex issues here dealing with port collapsing and inout.
        That is covered by issue 54.  

        As to the exact issue in 204, how about adding examples
        indicating that examples 2, 3, 4 are illegal?  James will 
        do that.

(7/14/03) 209: Shalom volunteered to drive
(7/14/03) 211: James volunteered to drive

        localparams are not available for override.

(7/14/03) 225: Anders volunteered to drive

        proposal exists.

(7/14/03) 226: Brad volunteered to drive
(7/14/03) 227: Anders volunteered to drive
(7/14/03) 233: Anders volunteered to drive
(7/14/03) 234: Anders volunteered to drive

(2/10/03)  Issue 237:   SV-BC19-41, SV-BC19-42
        Dave Roberts and Shalom to fix the proposal expanding the
	BNF and creating language to support it.

(7/14/03) 245: Shalom volunteered to drive
(7/14/03) 247: Anders volunteered to drive
(7/14/03) 257: Shalom has been volunteered to drive
(7/14/03) 258: Brad volunteered to drive
Waiting on Shalom.
(10/06/03) 283: Brad will update the proposal
(10/06/03) 428: Brad will update the proposal based upon Shalom's
feedback.

Issues with Proposals:
9:  Waiting for an updated proposal

73:  Steven wants to modify the proposal

208:  Brad moves that we accept this proposal.  Steven seconds.  
No opposed.  No abstain.  Passes.

226:  Modify the proposal to include:

Replace in A.2.4

defparam_assignment ::= hierarchical_parameter_identifier 
'=' constant_expression

with

defparam_assignment ::= hierarchical_parameter_identifier 
'=' constant_mintypmax_expression

Brad moves that we accept this proposal as modified.  
 Steven seconds.  Cliff, Stu, Don opposes based on 
  extension of defparam statement.  James, Drew abstains.  
   Brad, Steven, Mac are for.
   
      Brad moves that we pass the unmodified proposal.  Steven 
      seconds.  No opposed.  No abstain.  Passes.

      Brad will file a new issue for the defparam change.

237:  Dave Roberts and Shalom will work on a new proposal.

258:  Waiting on Shalom

276:  Brad moves we accept the proposal.  Shalom seconds.  
Cliff opposes.  No abstain.  Passes.

283:  Brad will update the proposal.

295:  Brad moves we accept the proposal.  Steven seconds.  No 
opposed.  No abstain.  Passes.

317:  Brad moves we accept the proposal.  Shalom seconds.  No 
opposed.  No abstain.  Passes.

337:  Brad moves we accept the proposal.  Steven seconds.  No 
opposed.  Mac abstains.  Passes.

415:  Shalom moves we accept the proposal.  Brad seconds.  Cliff 
opposes.  No abstain.  Passes.

428:  Brad will fix the issues in the proposal raised by Shalom
      Shalom will raise a new issue for his last issue.

Meeting adjourned at 10:30.


Next meeting of the ETF is scheduled for November 3rd, at 8:30 am.