Meeting called to order 8:30 March 8, 2004
Attendance:
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a-aaaapaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-a*aa Karen Pieper
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--a------a--aaaaaaaaaaaa*aa Dennis Marsa
-a-aaaaaaa-aaaaa-aaa-aaa$aa James Markevitch
------aaaa-aa-a-aaaaaaa-=-a Gordon Vreugdenhil
-------aaa--aaa-aa-aaaaa$aa Anders Nordstrom
--------------------aaa-$a- Ted Elkind
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-a*a- Brad Pierce
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aa-aaaaa-aa-a---aa-a-aa-$a- Mike McNamara
aaaaaa--aa-aaaaaaaaaa---*aa Stu Sutherland
a-aaaaa--a--------------*a- Tom Fitzpatrick
------------------------*aa Elliot Mednick
--a--a-a-------aa---------- Don Mills
------aaaa-----a----------- Jay Lawrence
---a-aa-------a------------ Mehdi Mohtashemi
-a--a--aaaa--aa------------ Kurt Baty
---------a----------------- David Smith
aa--aaaa-a----------------- Dennis Brophy
aaaaaaaaa------------------ Francoise Martinolle
---aaaa-------------------- Drew Lynch
-a---a--------------------- David Roberts
----a---------------------- Ennis Hawk
aa-a----------------------- Ronald Goodstein
---a----------------------- Keith Gover
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The chair directed everone's attention to
http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a link to the IEEE
policy is prominent.
Review of the minutes of the last ETF meeting (Feb 9, 2004).
Shalom notes that the minutes include, after the attendence,
the action items, we skipped the review of the open action items
in the last meeting, and the open action items were copied from
previous minutes.
Shalom moves to approve the minutes with above issue noted.
Steven Boyd seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
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Open Action Items:
(7/14/03) 16: Shalom
Proposal is made.
(11/18/02) generate proposal for 17, 113, 255.
Generate had a new proposal this morning.
(12/1/03) 22: There is no concensus to a fix, so we will leave
this issue alone until there is one.
(12/1/03) 33: Mike MacNamera to make a proposal.
(11/18/02) Steven and committee to return with an @* proposal for
issues 82, 84
Group has agreement on some of the more contentious
issues.
(11/18/02) Evaluating TBD Errata. The tasks are:
Shalom
170 formatting of bnf non-terminals
(11/4/02) Steven will proposing a wording to fix 172. It will
be a significant rewrite.
Partially rewritten through the generate proposal. More
work will remain after the generate proposal is ready.
(11/18/02) Evaluating TBD Errata. The tasks are:
Charles
197 sscanf/"string" incompatibility
Should add nulls in the white space description
in 17.2.4.3a
There is a proposal.
(11/18/02) 198, 254, 58, 318: Shalom
(7/14/03) 204: James volunteered to drive
He needs input on what the simulators do. There are some
complex issues here dealing with port collapsing and
inout.
That is covered by issue 54.
As to the exact issue in 204, how about adding examples
indicating that examples 2, 3, 4 are illegal? James will
do that.
He has not written this up yet. Shalom suggested that
this and 7 other errata be evalutated together. All of
the issues are Brad's (filed by him?) He does not want
to
drive. James will develop a proposal for all of them
including 204. 204, 227, 233, 234, 292, 332, 345, 452,
486(?).
(2/10/03) Issue 237: SV-BC19-41, SV-BC19-42
Dave Roberts and Shalom to fix the proposal expanding the
BNF and creating language to support it.
Is waiting on Shalom to do some experiments and come up
with a proposal based on the discussion of the 2/8/04
meeting.
(7/14/03) 245: Shalom
(7/14/03) 247: May be partially covered by generate proposal
(10/06/03) 428: Brad and Shalom
(3/8/04) 541: Shalom to check the proposal
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Issues discussion:
197: Steven moves that we accept the proposal. Charles
seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
522: Shalom moves that we accept the proposal. Stu
seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
526: Shalom moves that we accept the proposal. Steven
seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
535: Steven moves that we accept the proposal. Shalom
seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
536: Shalom moves that we accept the proposal. Steven
seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
541: Shalom will check the proposal
544: 15.5, Table 61:
Change Table 61 to say that notifier toggles from X to
either 1 or 0.
Change title of Table 61 to
"Notifier value responses to timing violations".
Stu moves that we accept the above changes.
Shalom seconds. Steven opposes. Dennis,
Francoise, Ron, Jason abstain.
In favor: Shalom, Brad, Charles, Mike, Stu
Passes.
546: Steven moves that accept this proposal. Brad
seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
552: Shalom moves that we accept this proposal. Stu
seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
Generate proposal: A new proposal dropping the issues
in section 12.8 was made this morning. We
reviewed the new changes.
Steven moves that we do an email vote for this
proposal ending 3pm PST Friday next week. We need 7
affirmatives for the proposal to pass.
Jason seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Passes.
The meeting adjourned a little after 10:30 Pacific time with
Stu's movement.